QUICK
LOOK: If
your car is right on the edge of these number
breaks we'll have to work it out as to which
it is. Nissan record keeping was sometimes
inconsistent so the exact breaks are
estimates formulated from the 8000+ vins we
have on file. For
help in VIN and engine number location on
your car please see "Identifying
Your
Roadster".
For
RHD info please see Right
Hand Drive
Vin#s. There
were many changes throughout production; so
ALWAYS order with your VIN.
Thanks. 1963
1500 SPL310-3-00073-00400 1964
1500 SPL310-4-00501-03816
+ 00001-00073 1965
1500 SPL310-10000-11124 . 1965-67
1600 SPL311
00001 to SPL311 11000 1967
1/2 1600 SPL311
11001 to SPL311 17000 1968
1600 SPL311
17001 to SPL311 24000 1969
1600 SPL311
24001 to SPL311 27000 1970
1600 SPL311
27001 to 31350 (est.) . 1967
1/2 2000 SRL311
00001 to SRL311 01000 1968
2000 SRL311
01001 to SRL311 07000 1969
2000 SRL311
07001 to SRL311 13000 1970
2000 SRL311
13001 to 14450 (est.) * *supposedly
SRL311 14832, production date 4/70, has
surfaced but has not been verified. Hardly
any 2000s were made in calendar year 1970;
and no other vins have been found (yet!)
between 14440 and 14832. KNOW
YOUR CAR: Read
and learn as much as you can to ascertain
what you really have. You may have been
handed a title to some other car. Does your
frame number match the cowl and dash plates?
The plates are easy to switch and fake ones
exist. If nothing seems to jive with the info
email us a 5x7 or smaller picture saved at
72dpi (or paper mail any size) and we'll be
happy to let you know what we see in the
picture. Keep
in mind foreign cars used to be titled as
year SOLD not necessarily the model year they
are. To the untrained eye the cars look
alike, but they aren't. To translate into
American terms and to use an icon most will
recognize, take the 57 and 58 Chevys. If a
4-eyed 58 was titled as a 57 would you refer
to it as a 57 Chev? Not hardly. There are no
68 1/2 cars, there are no "early 70" cars
without square side marker lamps in the US.
They are the model year they are, regardless
of what the title shows. Informed roadster
owners already know this, but incorrect
statements continue to be printed in various
places. On January 1, 1969 vehicles began
coming with production date tags, and by the
end of 1970 they were finally attached in a
way they would be permanent (well at least
they wouldn't fall off after the glue dried
out!). The tag only showed date of
production, the car would have to meet
whatever emission and safety requirements
that were in effect for that date. The tag
does not show the "model year", which can be
different. A "4/69" car is a 69, but a 7/69
is a 70. That's where the VIN (vehicle
identification number) come into play.
The
fact that we have listed "XX year cars are
from VIN 10000 TO 20000 does not mean there
were 10,000 cars, it only means that the cars
from that model year fall in to THAT RANGE.
After 39 years of accumulating VINs from all
over the world, it is easy to see that blocks
of VIN numbers were skipped or otherwise not
used, and where in the numbers this
occurred. Many
of the cars have been altered by owners which
can make some cars a puzzle to identify. (We
refer to some of these as omelet cars.) The
following information applies to cars
destined for North America only. The exact
VIN break can be off in either direction a
few numbers. For more info on VIN
peculiarities and help in VIN and engine
number location on your car please see
"Identifying
Your
Roadster".
63
1500
.SPL310-00073
to 00400 the
1963 starter looks like this: NOTE:
Highest vin found so far in this group is SPL310 -
00366.
64
1500
.SPL310-00501
to end (est. 3816) + 00001-00073* *NOTE:
Japanese
sources indicates 00001-00086 were
manufactured at the end of 64 production,
which could explain why they have higher
engine numbers than other 64's. If so, this
would mean 00087 is the earliest 1500
Fairlady. Unfortunately this is contradicted
by the lowest engine number we show, G 69242,
which was installed in SPL310-00075! Car
00076 also has a low engine number. Since
SPL310-00070 came with G 89992 we believed
the change happened somewhere around
00071-00075 until we saw the VIN plate for
00084 that shows G-90135! It also appears to
be factory stamped as a 65. So from #70-86 it
can be anybody's guess! NOTE:
No vins found between SPL310 - 00809 and SPL310 -
01288 65
1500
.SPL310-10000
to end (est. 11124)
65/66/67
1600
.SPL311
00001 to 11000 NOTE:
Only 5 vins higher than SPL311 - 10349
67
1/2 1600
.SPL311
11001 to SPL311 17000 NOTE:
Only
2 vins found between SPL311
- 15265
and SPL311 - 17000
67
2000 SRL311-00001 to 01000 NOTE:
Have found only 1 car with a vin between 00343 and
00400 inclusive, and only 7 cars above #701 point
to only 650 LHD 2000's being made; which confirms
what Japanese sources have said.
68
1600
.SPL311-17001
to 24000 NOTE:
Only
2 vins found between SPL311 - 22638 and 24000
69
1600
SPL311-24001
to 27000 NOTE:
No
vins found between SPL311 - 24765 and SPL311 -
25001.
70
1600
SPL311-27001
to end
(est.
31350) NOTE:
Only
two vins found between SPL311 - 30099 and
31002. The
preceding are just some of the
differences. Foreign
Differences Engine
Numbers If
you have a car close to the beginning of a
model year and find this information to be
inaccurate please let us know. As with all
Nissan figures, numbers are
approximate. 63
G15 70000 69
R16 70000 64
G15 72000 70
R16 93500 65
G15 91000 END:
R16 120200 65
R16 00001 67
U20 00001 66
R16 02000 68
U20 01700 67
R16 18000 69
U20 07500 67.5
R16 40000 70
U20 13700 68
R16 58000 END:
U20-15555 Wait,
don't I have a "Fairlady"? Production
Dates 63
SPL310* 9/62-6/63 ... 69
SPL311 10/68
- 6/69 64
SPL310 6/63-
6/64 70
SPL311 6/69
- 6/70 65
SPL310 7/64
- 1/65 67
SRL311 5/67
- 9/67 65-67
SPL311 1/65
- 2/67 68
SRL311 10/67
- 9/68 67.5
SPL311 3/67
- 9/67 69
SRL311 10/68
- 6/69 68
SPL311 10/67
- 9/68 70
SRL311 6/69
- 12/69** **Nissan
says 92 LHD 1970 2000's were
assembled in calendar year1970 but
we have not verified a
vin/production date past 12/69,
although an unverified report of SRL
14832 has surfaced, with a 4/70
production date tag. Quite possible
as we have a 3/70 production date on
a right hand drive car SR311-05347
which came with engine U20 15528.
Supposedly only 39 RHD 2000s were
made in calendar year 1970. We
believe though that very few (only
dozens) of 2000s were actually
manufactured in calendar year
1970. Who's
got the last one built? When did production
stop? 63
SPL310 - 00365 67.5
SPL311 - 16397 67
SRL311 - 00967 64
SPL310 - 03798 68
SPL311 - 23870 68
SRL311 - 06979 65
SPL310 - 11120 69
SPL311 - 26940 69
SRL311 - 12944 65-67
SPL311 - 10967 70
SPL311 - 31304 70
SRL311 - 14420* then
after 400+ skipped, possibly SRL
14832. LATEST
CONFIRMED PRODUCTION DATES SPL311-31154
produced in 4/70 SRL311-14346
produced in 11/69 Sales
Dates (USA) SPL
310 NOV
62 to JUL 66 SPL
311 JUL
65 to DEC 70* SRL
311 AUG
67 to FEB 71* Which
could explain why there are roadsters
titled as 1971s. Back then it was legal
for manufacturers to make "new" cars out
of storage lot queens. How
many cars were built? 1500
LHD 4,157 ............ 1500
RHD 2,749 1600
LHD 26,425 1600
RHD 959 2000
LHD 12,877 2000
RHD 2,129 TOTAL 43,459 TOTAL 5,837 TOTAL
49,296 LHD
By Year Estimates 63
1500 290 ............ 68
1600 5800 64
1500 2860 68
2000 4930 65
1500 1100 69
1600 2530 65-67
1600 10400 69
2000 5900 67.5
1600 4300 70
1600 3400 67
2000 650 70
2000 1400 RHD
By Year Estimates 63
1500 100 .... 68
1600 0 64
1500 1000 68
2000 800 65
1500 1200 69
1600 0 65-67
1600 720 69
2000 500 67.5
1600 200 70
1600 50 67
2000 430 70
2000 390 Whether
there were 50,000 cars or 60,000 it doesn't
much matter now, as a big percentage of them
have been recycled into soup cans. What we
need to do now is take care of what's left.
.
Datsun
Roadster Information from Rallye Enterprises,
Ltd.
Your
left hand drive (LHD) car is usually titled
as the year it was sold and may be 1 or 2
years off from what it REALLY is. If you do
not use the CORRECT year of your car you will
probably get the wrong parts and that will be
YOUR responsibility. No need to worry though;
below is a simple chart; below that are
descriptions of what to look for in checking
your car's "correctness". By now a lot of
cars have been "modified"; some to the point
they are now "omelets." The more you know
about what is incorrect on your car; the
better off you will be; at least when
ordering parts.
We
consider it your responsibilty to know what
year your car really is; not what some state
has slapped on as the year of sale. Any year
notations in the parts listing on this
website or in our catalog refer to the true
model year. We are only responsible for
providing the correct parts if you give us
the correct information. As time passes there
are also more "omelet" cars around. Laziness,
economics, greed, ignorance, outright theft
has created many of these what-is-it
roadsters; or sometimes just an owner with
three cars that just wanted to have one
assembled roadster to enjoy.
Pretty
much visually identical to the more common
64's, but some had script style "Datsun"
emblems on the front fenders instead of the
usual "Fairlady, and the same Datsun emblem
in place of a Datsun 1500, or Fairlady emblem
on the rear of the car. A single SU carb
feeds the engine. Chrome valve cover not cast
aluminum like 64s, cast iron 3/4" master
cylinder with fluid port on the topside.
Generator, not alternator. Nissan sales
brochures show WIDE whitewalls were used.
Round washer bottle, not rectangular. And
also unique:
the 1963 starter solenoid looks like
this:
the 63 regulator looks like this:
the 63 combo fuel pump/filter looks like
this
4
large even sized gauges on the dash (not 2
big and 4 little like 65's) non-opening side
triangle vent windows, trunk hinges on the
outside of the trunk and a twist-to-open
trunk handle. (65's have a trunk handle that
is a non-moving chrome strip.) The rear shelf
behind seats should be about 11 inches deep
and not about 2 1/2 feet deep like the 65's.
Originally came with a sideways back seat,
and even if it has been removed, pocket for
the sideways passenger's feet will be there.
Hood emblem is one piece (not individual
letters like 65's.) Dual carbs, alternator
and aluminum valve cover. Side moulding runs
all the way to front of car. This is possible
as fenders are almost flareless. Brake master
cylinder is aluminum casting 7/8"
diameter.
NOTE:
No vins found between SPL310 - 01648 and SPL310 -
02013
..
Two
seats not three as earlier cars. Has opening
triangle vent windows, a chrome strip for a
trunk handle (but with external trunk
hinges), 2 large and 4 small gauges, and
individual hood letters. A true 65 would also
have 2 suitcase-type (or J-hook type) top to
windshield latches, NOT 3 knurled knobs like
the 62-64's. A true 65 would also have a
large rear interior deck (package shelf) like
the 1600's (about 2 1/2 feet deep). The
battery would be under the hood, not behind
the passenger seat like the earlier 1500's.
All 1500's should have small flare fenders
with side trim running all the way to the
headlight scoop. All 1500's were positive
ground and had drum front brakes.(I have seen
some late 65's that have discs, but all have
been 2nd or later owner cars so as yet I
haven't found one I was sure hadn't been
converted).
Inside
of the vent windows and windshield frame are
chrome, not painted silver. Handles and
interior trim are also chrome, not painted or
black like the 67 1/2's. Gauges have a chrome
ring, not black. Four small gauges, 2 large
gauges in dash. All guages single, not
combined with one gauge on top of the circle,
one on the bottom. Dash has 4 toggle
switches, including wiper. Seat back has no
latch to keep it from going forward. Fenders
have medium flare, hood support is on
passenger side (right front). No visors. All
engine threads SAE. Emblems should say
"DATSUN 1600" in a straight line.
Gauges
have black rim, not chrome like 67, inside of
w/shield frame, vent frames, door handle
pockets dull grey not chrome. Aluminum rear
brake drums. Dual tank brake master cylinder.
Collapsible steering column. Emblem (1600) on
side of car is BELOW side moulding, Datsun
emblem is above side moulding.. Small gauges
combined 2 to a circle. Dash has 3 toggle
switches, wiper is now separate pull switch.
Inside door handles pull OUT to open door,
not back like earlier 1600's. Has door lock
buttons, earlier 1600's do not. Engine &
transmission metric. Side moulding is dished
out, not IN like earlier 1600's. Speedo goes
to 120, tach to 7000. Fenders have large
flare like later cars, not medium flare like
earlier...
Also
referred to as "67 1/2 2000" Same as 67 1/2
1600's. The only low windshield, flat dash
2000. Unique stainless trim around license
plate area. Tach goes to 8000rpm, speedo to
160mph. Headlight "scoops" are "satin"
finish. Only outer edges are chrome like
1500/1600 and 69-70 2000.
68
2000
.SRL311-01001
to 07000Windshield
frame no longer detachable. Three top
latches, not two. Triangle vent windows do
not open. Gauges "sunk in", outer door
handles pull up, not push button like earlier
cars. Mirror above windshield, not on dash as
on earlier cars. Last year for license light
in bumper on USA cars. On 68 2000s headlight
"scoops" are "satin" finish. Only outer edges
are chrome like all 1500/1600 and 69-70 2000.
Speedo on 1600 reads 120 max, on 2000 it's
160. Tach on 2000 goes to 8000, on 1600 to
7000. Fuse box has one row of fuses.
NOTE:
Only 9 vins found between SRL311 - 05978 and
07000
69
2000
SRL311-07001
to 13000Teardrop
shaped front marker lights, small round rear
side marker lamps. License light on each side
of license plate, not in bumper. Bumper
"rubbers" on behind each end of bumper. True
69 and 70 cars also have vin number on plate
on drivers side of dash behind windshield.
The 69 and 70 models originally would have
come with a front apron (piece behind front
bumper below grill) that had large center
vent holes, not the smaller of previous
years. (See sheet metal new parts page) Fuse
box has 2 rows of fuses.Steering box changed
to recirculating ball style at SRL 09000, SPL
25000. Among the electrical differences, true
69-70's have a 9-prong turn signal switch,
not 6 prong like the 68s.
NOTE:
Only
one vin found between SPL311 - 26746 and 27000
NOTE:
No
vins found between SRL311 - 12944 and SRL311 -
13000
70 2000
SRL311-13001
to end
(est.
14450)Rectangular
side markerlamps, larger rear reflectors next
to lower taillights, not above as on 62-69's.
Front park lamp lenses do NOT have chrome rim
around them. Most dash knobs have drawings
not words like 68-69. Stainless trim above
top of windshield frame is no longer used.
(only visible with top off) Some 70's had
fuel vapor tank mounted on forward wall of
trunk.
NOTE:
Highest 1600 vin found so far is SPL311-31304
NOTE:
Highest
2000 vin found so far is SRL311-14420**supposedly
SRL311 14832, production date 4/70, has
surfaced but has not been verified. Hardly
any 2000s were made in calendar year 1970;
and no other vins have been found between
14420 and 14832.
There
are many minor changes throughout the
production. (some cars have also been
"modified" by their owners) Speedo's on 69
& 70 read to 140, not 160 or 120 like 67
and 68's. The large gauges on 69 and 70's do
not have the chrome circle in the center that
the 68's do. The panel behind license plate
is angled in at the bottom of 68-70's so that
license plate is more vertical. Some 70's
also have evaporative fuel controls which
among other items necessitates a secondary
tank on the forward wall, inside the trunk.
Overall the body can look the same if you are
new to the car. 1500's have "small flare"
front fenders, 65-67 1600's have "medium
flare" and 67 1/2-70's have "large" flare
front fenders. Rear fender flares vary also.
There are 5 different hoods, all of which
will bolt on and fit the opening, but vary by
latch, emblem holes, position and type of
hood support and the moulding on the front
edge of the "scoop." The list goes on as some
of you have found out trying to swap parts.
To help ID cars with lots of missing parts
you can check these pictures
of what the transmission humps of some
unaltered floors look like.
Cars
not destined for the USA and Canada can have
small differences. Could be left or right
hand drive. Front turn signal lenses can be
clear or orange. Rear turn signal lenses were
amber. Rear emblems on even later cars may
say "Fairlady" instead of Datsun. Side
emblems on non North American 65-67s may say
"Fairlady." Bumpers may not have holes for
guards. Most 67-70 non-North America 2000's
came with Solex Carburetors. Later (68-70)
cars came with a passing light feature not
found on North American cars. No emission
controls were installed. Some cars back to 65
have the teardrop front side marker lights,
but no rear side marker lights. Some 69-70
cars in some markets stayed with the 68 type
rear bumper and single license lamp design.
There's some great shots of some RHD cars in
the book "FAIR LADY, JAPAN'S FIRST SPORTS
CAR" available in our Literature
Section.
The
engine number will not be the same as the
chassis number. U20 engine numbers usually
are 400-500 numbers higher, which allowed for
spare engines and from the right hand drive
cars taking engines from the same numbered
supply. I've also seen a new engine that had
NO engine number stamped on it. The R-16
engine, which began production in 1965, was
also used in the RL411 Sedan and Wagon, which
was produced in greater numbers. Variations
of it's kissin' cousin the H20 continued to
be used in a number of other passenger and
industrial installations. The G-15 engine was
also used in a number of other vehicles. The
only major differences are in the R-16 in
that at R-40000 the number of main bearing
saddles was increased from three to five
(although it's debatable whether or not that
was an improvement) and some of the threaded
holes were changed to metric specifications;
although the headbolt hole threads remained
the same! As best we can figure; the
starting numbers for a given LHD model
year are estimated to be as follows. There is
sometimes overlap at the beginning and end of
a year as they didn't always take the engines
in exact order of when the engines were
actually produced.
"Fairlady"
is a model name Nissan started using on its
sports models after a Nissan executive saw
the broadway play "My Fair Lady." It is still
used on Z
cars
that are kept in Japan or exported to certain
destinations. Most of Nissan's cars and
trucks had names in the 60's. These names
were pulled off cars destined for North
America. I've always guessed it had something
to do with heading off sales problems with
their names. Fairlady, Cherry, Sunny, Violet,
Bluebird. Are these the cars of the American
Male? We have heard a number of versions from
owners about the "Fairlady" name and how it
applies to their car. (Is this how fables are
born?) We've had quite a few people call and
say they have a 196_ "Rallye Roadster".
(Before we incorporated we operated under the
name "Rallye Roadster) My favorite is the
gentleman who called for parts and said he
had a 1967 Ladybug. In the 80s I found an ad
in the newspaper for a 1967 Datsun Pink Lady.
In 2002 someone emailed me looking for parts
for a 1965 Fire Lady. (They DID say their car
was RED...)
These
are somewhat of a guess. Some of the very low
VINs could have been produced months earlier.
Lead times require protoypes to be made long
before the model changes are in production.
Most manufacturers don't give these
prototypes VIN numbers. These dates indicate
when quantity production for sale was begun.
Factory figures often may be "Introduction"
dates as well as "Production Start" dates.
*
The
lowest vin numbers 00001-00073 were
assembled 7/64, at the end of 63-64
production, which explains why they
all have very high engine numbers.
Were the frames misplaced? Go
figure!
Highest
Vin Numbers Found (so far) Before Model Changeover
or End of Production:
.
Again,
accuracy is something wished for but not
often attained when it comes to "official"
recordkeeping. From Nissan USA's sales charts
we present the following:
Good
question, to which there are many answers.
The right one is elusive. Numerous "official"
figures for each year exist, but can be
argued to be wrong by contradictory data.
After 40 years we have spent with the
roadster as a hobby and later as a business
we have recorded a good percentage of the vin
numbers, spread pretty evenly throughout the
range. Many times we have every 3rd or 4th
car or every 10th car, or sometimes 3-4 in a
row. We thought we had the run of numbers
laid out, but recent information brings up
the possiblity that certain vins in the
progression were skipped. If a block of
numbers is missing or just a small scattering
of numbers has been found it may indicate the
areas where vins were skipped. Please...feel
free to prove us wrong! (or at least throw in
your 2¢ worth) How many cars total? Pick
a number, and if you speak forcefully, you
can be the AUTHORITY! (because we sure don't
know.) Taking into account the recent
information on vin skipping, I'd be inclined
to go along with the figures previously
published in the Neko Fairlady Vol
II book. Their figures were calendar year
not model year, so we have refigured to show
model year which is what everyone wants to
know. From this I would surmise the
following:
This
contradicts the Nissan ID guide that shows
sales amounts for left hand drive cars. I
believe the difference can be explained.
Although it states 3000 more 2000's were sold
in the LHD configuration than the total
number of 2000s built, it shows that about
3000 less 1600's were sold than the amount
built. And to add to the confusion, some of
the year by year LHD VIN numbers in the
"official" parts book are mixed up with the
RHD VIN numbers, which were completely
different. Production figures in the Neko
book are by calendar year, not model year so
it makes it difficult to nail down the
individual numbers. The 2000 figures we
decided on based on quantity of known engine
#s. We will update this page as more rumors,
theories, suppositions and possibly facts
surface. We welcome any comments or
information that any of you can provide. If
you think "official" figures carry any
weight, forget it. A recent Nissan parts
guide shows the roadster ending production
9/69 when we've seen numerous production date
tags that prove that wrong. As mentioned
above; the vin number guide in the "official"
parts book even has the RHD and LHD vin
numbers mixed up.

